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    Lighting Questions

    Okay, I've noticed a couple of things since my white led driver failed 2 days ago. When I lost the white light, I put a small led strip and 2 compact fluorescent bulbs on the tank as emergency lighting.

    The RBTA that usually looks pure white is now looking pink. I'm wondering if maybe my leds are too bright. I've never had a meter on this tank. Does a PAR meter tell if the colours not right?

    There are 2 of these white nems that I got from Buscher last fall. They have never gotten any bigger and usually hang out under the rock ledge.

    The other thing I noticed, is the Kenya tree that I bought from The Incrdible Aquarium about 3 weeks ago appears to have split. It has broken off about 4 fairly large pieces. Is it normal for this coral to split this soon since being fragged?

    What do you think?
    Gina

    38 gal tall, 25 gal sump/refugium,
    2 tomato clowns, 2 pajama cardinals,3 blue damsels, hermits, cleaner shrimp, nassarius snails and 5 + Mexican turbos, 2 bubble tip anemone, , hairy mushrooms, devils hand , some zoas/palys, so pulsing xenia
    About 45lbs live rock, 15 lbs live sand, and , dead coral and shells
    33 x 3 W leds (19 white, 14 royal blue, 2 UV, 2 red)

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    Gina
    sounds like your lighting is too bright as Mike (busher) has supplied nearly everyone on reefescape with reed bubble tips and they have been red.

    I too put red bubble tips in a shallow tank with bright lighting and they bleached out turning almost white I moved them to another tank and their original colour returned.

    As to kenya trees they are the dandelions of the reef tank they continuosly drop branches to create frags all over your tank.

    tony
    100 gallon Diamond Reef Tank, 8 x T5 Bulbs
    Euroreef CS6 Skimmer.
    reef flo DART return pump,
    40 gallon sump,
    LINKED TO 30 gallon tank
    with a Large PEACOCK MANTIS
    LPS, zoo's, mushrooms, Torches, frog spawn & hammers, chalices, monti's and acros



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    Hi Gina how the Led fail?
    *1 did the led burn? or was the driver?
    check every single led with 2 AA batteries in series, or get a little 2 battery Pack like this one
    from the source
    plug the rail in the outlet ,and when you find the burned one the whole
    rail will lit.

    #2 sometimes the coloring its not fully seen unless we change the lighting
    it might have been too bright of a white ..the blue ones are the royal blue ?
    (actinics) ... or this new light you have now its Not strong as the leds ..and water quality has an impact as well..
    last year while I was in Italy to see my family I learned something new attended to a seminar about light and water quality....
    practically the color of the water will act as a specific filter
    ...eg.. if the water its yellow due to DOC it will put a yellow filter to the lighting .
    if the water its greenish due the algae it will put a green filter to the Lightning..
    (Mitchell can chime in with filters and Photos and how they react )
    so the creature in your tank where adapting to the leds .. (with water Filter)
    now you see them under another light and (water filter) so the coral coloration is a little different or the reaction of the corals is different

    *3 some anemones will hide for some reason(being bothered by fish or other) and other will hide for no reason...if they are happy leave them ....otherwise try a good flow and good light and feeding..

    *4 if the kenya tree fragged itself it may be ok.. just look if is fragging or is falling apart..by checking if it is melting or shrinking polyp extension..

    hope all this help
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    *1 did the led burn? or was the driver?
    not really sure
    check every single led with 2 AA batteries in series,
    I'll try that

    plug the rail in the outlet ,and when you find the burned one the whole
    rail will lit.

    when I plug it in, the whole circiut flashes, full bright, continously, about 1 per second.
    ..the blue ones are the royal blue ?actinics) .

    yes

    .. or this new light you have now its Not strong as the leds
    definitely not as strong 2 x 6500K

    ..and water quality has an impact as well..
    need to check water

    now you see them under another light and (water filter) so the coral coloration is a little different or the reaction of the corals is different



    *4 if the kenya tree fragged itself it may be ok.. just look if is fragging or is falling apart..by checking if it is melting or shrinking polyp extension..

    The kenya tree looks fine today...... I think I dropped a rock on it the other day. I can see the spots where the pieces broke off.
    Last edited by GinaReef; 30-04-2012 at 01:48 PM.
    Gina

    38 gal tall, 25 gal sump/refugium,
    2 tomato clowns, 2 pajama cardinals,3 blue damsels, hermits, cleaner shrimp, nassarius snails and 5 + Mexican turbos, 2 bubble tip anemone, , hairy mushrooms, devils hand , some zoas/palys, so pulsing xenia
    About 45lbs live rock, 15 lbs live sand, and , dead coral and shells
    33 x 3 W leds (19 white, 14 royal blue, 2 UV, 2 red)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinaReef View Post

    when I plug it in, the whole circiut flashes, full bright, continously, about 1 per second.
    .
    is it only with one driver??? try to switch the driver it might be the driver ...
    or it might be shorting some where
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    DIY Calcium reactor(PM),DIY PHOS react, MJ MODS 2x400,
    Lighting: 48 X 3W LED's -12 Royal Blue-36 Cool White Total 144 Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUIGI View Post
    is it only with one driver??? try to switch the driver it might be the driver ...
    or it might be shorting some where

    Yes only one driver.

    and yes the white leds light alright when I switch over the driver (and the blue ones flash)
    Gina

    38 gal tall, 25 gal sump/refugium,
    2 tomato clowns, 2 pajama cardinals,3 blue damsels, hermits, cleaner shrimp, nassarius snails and 5 + Mexican turbos, 2 bubble tip anemone, , hairy mushrooms, devils hand , some zoas/palys, so pulsing xenia
    About 45lbs live rock, 15 lbs live sand, and , dead coral and shells
    33 x 3 W leds (19 white, 14 royal blue, 2 UV, 2 red)

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    so its the driver then ....are you ordering another one???
    IF YOU LOVE THE REEF.. SAVE IT!
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    1999-33g Fresh ,2006 planted
    2004-30g Saltwater
    2001-90g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF37) driven by a Mak4,
    DIY Calcium reactor(PM),DIY PHOS react, MJ MODS 2x400,
    Lighting: 48 X 3W LED's -12 Royal Blue-36 Cool White Total 144 Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUIGI View Post
    so its the driver then ....are you ordering another one???
    Yes I've ordered 3 and some more leds. I'm thinking about a breeding tank Fish Only. So I might need to build another unit for that.
    Gina

    38 gal tall, 25 gal sump/refugium,
    2 tomato clowns, 2 pajama cardinals,3 blue damsels, hermits, cleaner shrimp, nassarius snails and 5 + Mexican turbos, 2 bubble tip anemone, , hairy mushrooms, devils hand , some zoas/palys, so pulsing xenia
    About 45lbs live rock, 15 lbs live sand, and , dead coral and shells
    33 x 3 W leds (19 white, 14 royal blue, 2 UV, 2 red)

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    you did order already ???
    I was going top ask if you can order a few UV leds for me
    IF YOU LOVE THE REEF.. SAVE IT!
    E-MAIL ME or BBM on my Z10 PIN:2671DDAB
    WEB PAGE
    1999-33g Fresh ,2006 planted
    2004-30g Saltwater
    2001-90g Reef,Mak4 for return,DIY sump,DIY Beckett Skimmer(AF37) driven by a Mak4,
    DIY Calcium reactor(PM),DIY PHOS react, MJ MODS 2x400,
    Lighting: 48 X 3W LED's -12 Royal Blue-36 Cool White Total 144 Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by LUIGI View Post
    you did order already ???
    I was going top ask if you can order a few UV leds for me
    Sorry, too late. I needed to get a replacement driver on the way soonest.
    Gina

    38 gal tall, 25 gal sump/refugium,
    2 tomato clowns, 2 pajama cardinals,3 blue damsels, hermits, cleaner shrimp, nassarius snails and 5 + Mexican turbos, 2 bubble tip anemone, , hairy mushrooms, devils hand , some zoas/palys, so pulsing xenia
    About 45lbs live rock, 15 lbs live sand, and , dead coral and shells
    33 x 3 W leds (19 white, 14 royal blue, 2 UV, 2 red)

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